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   Old Thread  #18 31 Jan 2012 at 3.03pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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totaley agree with every thing you have said and would only add that i think you should only hold any Barbel in a landing net for a fews moments before taking photoes to help regain its self and then release straight away after recovering in the margins after taking your pics.
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   Old Thread  #17 27 Jan 2012 at 8.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Please read the Barbel Society's handling code - with particular reference to "burping" :

11. The use of plastic tubing or other mechanical devices to try and release what may be perceived to be trapped air in barbel is not recommended. Fish are invariably able to rid themselves of air naturally and poking around with tubes or massaging fish could cause internal damage.

Over-zealous use of "massage" could damage fish.

I find that if you hold a fish with its head upstream and allow them to recover strength then they will swim away very hard, often fish will power away after a few seconds if you have used the correct tackle to bring them in promptly rather then over-playing the fish on very light gear.
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   Old Thread  #16 2 Oct 2009 at 6.59pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I find the best way to recover a barbel to full strength is to use a keepsack

so what stops them going belly up in the sack??
not having a dig, its a real question from someone who wants to know!

because if it really does work then its the answer to my prayers, the venue im fishing has nothing but high banks & getting to the waters edge in most of the swims is impossible.
but a sack lowered into the water would enable me to rest them & return them safely.
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   Old Thread  #15 2 Jul 2009 at 1.55pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i do agree with you "BUT"i only tend to keep mine in the net for approx 20mins hopeing to get one more on the bank to make the photo "a pair of barb's always look's good don't you think"anyway i must admit that 99.9% of the time im a strickly a one barbel man and move on to the next swim. once ive caught my barbel i can spend time burping ,cleaning and admiring the fish aswell as not just the thrill of catching and landing the fish, the whole experience for me is the catch and release, call me mad but i find that's the best part catching ,admiering, holding the fish and watching it gain strength to then slowly drift away .
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   Old Thread  #14 2 Jul 2009 at 12.48pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I find the best way to recover a barbel to full strength is to use a keepsack (not a keepnet) Im waiting to be shouted down on this one but I dont care. I have been using a carp keepsack for barbel for a few years and have never had one go belly up on me. This also gives a good photo opportunity and a little bit of a buzz to packin away after a session. The carp sacks are cloth and dont have any form of mesh so dont harm the fish in any way.

Go on someone try to tell me off
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   Old Thread  #13 30 Nov 2008 at 11.44am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I've read this article very good and were supprised about the burping of the barbel.

When i take a picture or take the fish to the water, most of the time i hear a small burp, 'till now ik know what it is and how important it is to make the fish do so.

I'm very glad that i found this an made an aticle on my own site about this, only had to translate it to dutch, but that was no problem.

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   Old Thread  #12 25 May 2008 at 2.45am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!

When netting a barbel its usually best to nurse it in the landing net before anything else especially during low oxygen levels, once the fish regains its strength unhook it, photograph if you wish but do it quickly and with a previously set up camera ect, then nurse the fish until it kicks strongly after taking zandermans advice on burping the fish, any sores or lesions are best treated to a thin coating of friars basalm applied with a cotton wool bud stick...
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   Old Thread  #11 13 Nov 2007 at 4.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Some good care points in this listing......biggest difference between Carp / Barbel is that they actually produce and indeed suffer from the "lactic" effect when working muscles during capture ...they naturally have a much higher build up when fighting compared to other species then need a much longer recovery period ......coupled with the air bubble point it would be much harder for a tired barbel to survive early return..........its important to understand just whats happening with what may appear like a sick / played out fish ( by the way its something everyone should avoid if possible by giving a fish some line where its safe to do so as oppose to holding on against strong tackle at all cost ). If played sensibly a hooked barbel can get some recovery / oxygenated water through its gills during capture .....its the hard boring runs with constant pressure which work their muscles the hardest.......a free swimming barbel under light pressure is working its muscle tissue far less........
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   Old Thread  #10 20 Jul 2007 at 8.14am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Good post

I'm just starting to have a go for barbel.
I've never heard anything about this burping and so would never have thought about it.
Hopefully i'll get meself a fish to burp!
One question. Do they always need burping or do you sometimes check and there's no need?
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   Old Thread  #9 21 Oct 2006 at 2.17pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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when it comes to care a lot of us really dont care! how many times have you seen ppl cut line when a eel is caught,thats not careing,how many times have you seen game anglers disrespect course fish ie: kill them cos they in the way of salmon and sea trout,minnows,gudgeon and sticklebacks are all persecuted,the stickleback is also starting to disappear from a lot of waters,chub and barbel used to be persecuted on some stretches of the river wear by uneducated game anglers, and how many times av yer heard this being said:the bailff wants all the pike out the pond cos they eating everything? if pike and zander ate everything surely they would be extinct by now-learn the balance of nature and what it means-you know the food chain etc..........
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   Old Thread  #8 28 Aug 2006 at 10.03am Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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i hold my fish in the edge till the bubbles stop coming out never really crossed my mind that you could help it expel air by rubbing its belly .very good point
also agree about not fishing the high banks barbel take a lot longer to recover and cant see how they can do this when you are 5 feet above them trying to keep them upright in the landing net.
must admit ive never done it and never will
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   Old Thread  #7 1 Aug 2006 at 9.46pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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The burping is a very important point its something I do all the time and I wont let them go until they've stopped expelling bubbles its one of the reasons they go belly up . Good to see someone spreading this advice 'cause you don't hear of it spoken too much
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   Old Thread  #6 26 Jul 2006 at 5.07pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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Hi all

It is VERY important to ensure that the fish is burped properly,
Gently rub her stomach and you will feel that toward the Pectoral fins there is a "Hollow" area if you massage this gently the fish will give off streams of bubbles from the gills.
These bubble can take a while to remove and are nearly always the reason that a fish goes belly up.
Once the air has been removed the fish will regain strength quite quickly.

Remember at the moment during this hot weather there is less dissolved Oxygen in the water than would normally be there, this is particularily so in the early hours (Water weed uses Oxygen overnight and releases Carbon Dioxide during the hours of darkness) so as such Barbel will take much longer to recover, it took me an hour to revive a fish on the Thames recently.

Because there is so little dissolved Oxygen in the water at the moment many Thames anglers have stopped fishing untill we get some rain.
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   Old Thread  #5 23 Jun 2006 at 2.20pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
Fish safety starts with the rigs,always ensure the rig is safe and the lead can be shed by the barbel in the event of breakage.
Do not take your eyes off the rod for a second,as it is highly possible to lose a rod when a barbel takes,as bites are often savage.If you must go and see your mate in the next swim,reel in.
Don't fish swims where you have no chance of landing a barbel..many people fish stupidly tight to snags,or off a high banking,because there's a shoal of barbel visible.

an unhooking mat is a must

also,as thomo says,it's a different ball game to carp.Barbel give their every last bit during the fight,and in no circumstances should they be kept out of water for the same length of time as many carp are.

Once landed,rest the fish in the secure landing net while you wet the mat and zero the scales etc.Have the camera ready if needed,and don't rattle off X amount of shots of each side of the fish,a few quick snaps and back in the water ASAP.

hold the fish in flowing water facing upstream until she's positively kicking and raring to go.A barbel released early and allowed to belly up and drift off is more than likely a dead barbel.

All being well and good,barbel can withstand many repeat captures as long as they're treated correctly
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   Old Thread  #4 22 Jun 2006 at 9.22pm Login so you can post / reply  Register so you can join in!
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I think an unhooking mat is a good idea too. You can get a really good roving/stalking unhooking mat for a good price these days that roll up or have handles so they dont take up room, or are not that difficult to carry.

Matt.
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